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Engaging Floortime (4): Where I’m coming from

by Kristina Chew, PhD on July 20th, 2006

Engaging Autism: Helping Children Relate, Communicate and Think with the DIR Floortime ApproachBefore continuing my examination of Dr. Stanley Greenspan’s new book Engaging Autism: Using the Floortime Approach to Help Children Relate, Communicate and Think, I wish to clarify “where I’m coming from” in regard to the educational and other approaches that have helped our son Charlie the most over these past nine years.

I am an ABA mother—-ABA being Applied Behavior Analysis. Charlie has done ABA since he was two years old. He has never done a Floortime program, though many of the exercises to evoke language and to develop play skills in Engaging Autism ring a familiar note to me, as Charlie’s ABA therapists, speech therapists, and teachers have always integrated similar techniques into their teaching, and my husband and I have used such techniques in our own interactions with Charlie (as an example, I note Greenspan’s description of how to interact with a child even while you are driving, “by having the child point out different license plates or speed limit signs and so forth” (p. 192) ).

I have written regularly about ABA and how Charlie has learned thanks to ABA on Autismland. If you go to the “Categories” section on the left, there is a link to the many posts in which I have written about ABA. And, from writing online about ABA and mentioning the Lovaas agency, whose model of ABA was created in the Psychology Department of UCLA under the direction of Dr. O. Ivar Lovaas, I have gotten numerous comments about “I hate ABA”; “ABA treats children like animals”; “ABA is the same as dog-training”; “Did you know Lovaas tried to cure homosexuality using ABA?”; “Lovaas used aversives including hitting”; “ABA is harsh, cruel, and inhumane”; “You have to live with your choices”; etc..

My position on ABA is summed up by something my husband, Jim Fisher, has written in a book review (February 2006) of the The Science and Fiction of Autism, which is by psychologist Laura Schreibman:

To her credit, Schreibman does acknowledge that claims of “scientific” validation for behavioral treatment rests on shakier ground than many ardent proponents will generally admit. She concedes both the flaws of a celebrated 1987 UCLA study that fueled claims of “recovery” from autism through the methods of applied behavior analysis, and the failure of subsequent efforts to replicate the original results. As an academic researcher (though hardly a scientist) I would not care to invest my reputation in a single study showing that 9 of 19 autistic children were “indistinguishable” from other children after receiving highly intensive behavioral interventions. As the parent of an autistic child, on the other hand, I would (and have) quit my job and moved halfway across the U.S. in search of an educational placement for my son grounded in these same behavioral principles, not so that he can become ‘indistinguishable’ from other children but so that he can be taught in the way he learns best.

Charlie did ABA intensively in a home program under the Lovaas agency when he was very young and—after a hiatus of a few years—-again has a home program overseen by the Lovaas agency. He has attended school programs that claimed they used ABA and DTT (discrete trial teaching) and did not really, with the result that Charlie’s academic and other learning did not progress and his behaviors became unmanageable and, indeed, dangerous to himself. He has attended, and is currently attending, a school program that not only says they use ABA, but that really puts its principles to work and not by teaching Charlie in a rote and rigid manner while he sits at a desk and does endless drills. This is the stereotypical view of an ABA program and, while it may be what is called an “ABA” in some programs, it is not what Charlie’s school or his home program does. It is thanks to Charlie’s current ABA school and teachers and to his ABA home program and therapists that he has been learning too read, to communicate and talk, to interact socially with his classmates, and much more, and that his self-injurious and aggressive behaviors are under control.

While Greenspan in Engaging Autism only refers specifically to Lovaas and ABA once (on pg. 252, where Lovaas’ model of ABA is described as working “on changing surface behaviors with structured tasks”), the entire book is an implicit critique of ABA. In chapter 1, “Redefining Autism and the Way We Treat It,” Greenspan notes that “for many years, the behavioral model—which did help some children fit into school and home life—was the only model” (p. 9), vs. his DIR approach which is presented as addressing a child’s “core deficits” and teaching “core abilities,” rather than just dealing with the “surface behaviors of tantrums, hand-flapping, humming, etc.. When words such as “limited” (p. 10), “idolated skills” (p. 10), “repetitive” (p. 18), “structured” (p. 252) appear in Engaging Autism, ABA is implicitly being referred to.

So, yes, I read Engaging Autism with a critical eye. I know parents who have done Floortime and seen their child do very well; I know that the kind of intensive ABA that has taught Charlie so much is not necessarily the best method to teach other autistic children. It is a truism in Autismland, but I will write it: When you’ve met one autistic person, you have met one autistic person, and the next person will be different.

Nonetheless, I have decided to devote a series of posts here on Autism Vox to Engaging Autism in part because of Greenspan’s views on how autism develops–on how the parents can contribute to putting their child “at risk for ASD.” These views are at the heart of his Floortime approach; these views implicitly resuscitate the refrigerator mother theory of autism. And while we say that “no one believes that any more,” I am not so sure.

I will consider Greenspan’s views on how to address behaviors from the self-stimulatory and “avoidant” to those that are dangerous and aggressive in my next post on Engaging Autism.

POSTED IN: Books, Diagnosis, Education, Parenting, Psychology, Treatment

8 opinions for Engaging Floortime (4): Where I’m coming from

  • Jannalou
    Jul 20, 2006 at 9:07 am

    My main argument with ABA is not the methods and principles, it’s the attitude of the consultants that I’ve worked under.

    There is a way to use ABA to the advantage of everyone involved, but I haven’t yet come across anyone who did so all that well. It sounds like you have.

    I respond to Greenspan the way you do, though; I really dislike these veiled criticisms. It feels dishonest to me.

  • Daisy
    Jul 20, 2006 at 12:28 pm

    I totally agree with your statement that when you’ve met one autistic person, you’ve met one autistic person. These people may share traits in common, but every one is an individual. Autism is but one piece.

  • Kristina Chew, PhD
    Jul 20, 2006 at 8:02 pm

    Jannalou, I have met those consultants too—we’ve been through many, some private and some from public school districts—-some with “attitude.”

    (Our current consultant is really good.)

    Greenspan writes as if he “knows” the children he has “worked with,” but all of them are composites (for reasons of privacy, as he says).

    Yes, Daisy, I see much of Charlie is every autistic person I have met or read, and yet there is only one Charlie, for sure!

  • Autism Vox » Here I Am
    Aug 27, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    […] And there is, I think, no good or true or right answer for one parent to give to another parent. It is a truism but it is, nonetheless, true that “all autistic children are different” and that “if you’ve met one autistic child, you’ve met one autistic child.” Different children have different skills and different levels of skills that vary as much as (to invoke the metaphor of the autism spectrum) the colors reflected off a prism in the sunlight. The ABA that has helped Charlie learn so much and like learning so much may seem like the last thing another child needs, as may the gluten-free casein-free diet he has been on since he was two years old, and the medications, and the Culturelle capsules. […]

  • Neil Samuels
    Mar 10, 2007 at 12:05 am

    What you fail to more appreciate or dare I say more subtly understand is that not that “parents cause their child’s autism spectrum challenges” but in fact, the proper and slow attunement and harnessing of the child’s natural intent (individual processing differences) in emotionally attuned and meaningful back and forth co-regulated child directed relationships can begin to reverse some of the core deficits associated with autism/PDD or, as often is the case, as a developmental therapist/educator I have repeatedly experienced first hand, prevent it from escalating to more severe ranges. The proper attunment of parent/child nurturance based practices (e.g., co-affect or co-emotional cuing) is, however, you want to otherwise distort and label “refrigerator mom theory”, needs to be learned by equipped and ill-equipped parents alike. Guilt has no place here, but rather, education and intuitive and empathic understanding does.

  • Kristina Chew, PhD
    Mar 10, 2007 at 12:27 am

    Mr. Samuels, thank you very much for sharing your experiences here; do you work principally with autistic children?

  • Neil Samuels
    Mar 10, 2007 at 9:06 am

    Yes, primarily with children who have early indications or have been been formally diagnosed (or in some cases misdiagnosed) with ASD/PDD-NOS.

  • Bonnie Sayers
    May 11, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    This is another book I have yet to find time to read through. I plan on doing that after finishing his online course that I am taking. Matthew had floortime therapy for a year and did very well. We changed clinics since the first one made a big deal on a scratch Matt did to her and filed some incident report and took a photo of it. That went too far. I also did a course on floortime there, which was a requirement. Then we went with the agency where Matt gets his feeding therapy and had it done in the home, first was a male that we could not relate to and then the supervisor who was very good, but last Sept one of the feral cats broke its leg and came in the house and she stopped due to her asthma. Now we are waiting on another male by summer time to pick it up again.

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