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64 opinions for Self-styled autism expert gets 3 years for fraud

• Julie
  Jun 15, 2007 at 7:58 pm

  This is so sad. This is abuse taking advantage of other parents is so incomprehensible to me. Another example of something to watch out for when looking for assistance with your child like there already is not enough.

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Jun 15, 2007 at 8:19 pm

  Who wants to think one might have to be wary of another parent, sigh.

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Jun 15, 2007 at 9:06 pm

  With autism becoming the “business” is it—a veritable marketplace of treatments—how may more “experts” will we see offering their abilities to parents looking for hope?

• AnneC
  Jun 15, 2007 at 9:30 pm

  I wonder what’s going to happen to her kid while she’s in prison.

• On Trial: Vaccines and ABA
  Jun 16, 2007 at 12:01 am

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• Steve D
  Jun 16, 2007 at 12:27 am

  My thoughts exactly, AnneC. Yikes!

• Estee
  Jun 16, 2007 at 7:26 am

  Wise words.

• LP
  Jun 21, 2007 at 1:39 pm

  RE: Annie C’s question. Her kids are with their father, where they should have been all along. She frauded him also. She committed more theft crimes in Sarasota Fla under her married name Chatsko also. Everything is surfacing! There are many more crimes, but not everyone FILED CHARGES.
  Please be proactive if someone commits a crime toward you!! It gets them off the street when repeated offences add up!

• RS
  Jul 10, 2007 at 10:53 am

  A friend of mine had the misfortune of meeting Nancy through a dating service (golfmates.com) last year. After many of her sob stories and $10,000.00 later, he realizes he was taken like everyone else. Charges were just pressed against her, but now with her in jail, that’s the end of that money! She’s where she belongs!!

• LP
  Jul 11, 2007 at 9:50 am

  This is a reply to RS……please email me. I would like to speak to you. l.petrilli@gmail.com

• BD
  Jul 23, 2007 at 8:26 pm

  This is also a reply to RS………..trust me your friend is not alone same personal experience and a Very good friend of mine also met her on line with sob stories etc….taken for LOTS of money but she is in jail and I guess your right …that’s the end of ever getting any money.

• Lost96
  Jul 23, 2007 at 9:39 pm

  Im glad she is where she is- some people can never tust again after an experience that Fisher put people through. Im just sad i missed the sentencing date. I hope her son is going to be well, Im sure he is with loving people!

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Jul 23, 2007 at 10:41 pm

  Parents have to be more careful than ever—-even in regard to other parents. Sad.

• RS
  Jul 24, 2007 at 10:24 am

  This is a reply to BD……Please have your friend press charges against her. It’s the only way she’ll stay in jail for a very long time. Hopefully, some money eventually will be paid back.

• LP
  Jul 24, 2007 at 10:29 am

  Yes, please press the civil charges. Prosecutor said if she didn’t represent herself as a nurse or Dr and take money as such, and just got pity money out of you, you must file civil charges. Not enough people bothered to press charged, causing her to just keep on truckin with her crimes!!
  BD, please email me if possible. l.petrilli@gmail.com

• BD
  Jul 24, 2007 at 11:11 am

  You can press all the charges you want but think about it …what will you actually get she oviously stole from many people..she owes restitution already from the crimminal case..im sure it wont be easy to ever work again (unless she figures out a way to do that) with her charges. You would need to hire an attorney ..more money . Maybe more jail time if you can prove your case but she still gets fed 3 meals a day she’ll soon be at some country club..im sure.

• LP
  Jul 24, 2007 at 11:19 am

  How much did she steal from you? I’m curious.
  You dont need a lawyer for civil charges, go to your Magistrate or police station.
  I’m the LAST one who wants her in jail, getting 3 hots and a cot, and probably continuing her education on our dime. Honest people end up footing ALL the bills-believe me! No one was frauded by her for more than us! You can gripe, or you can help prevent her from doing it again.

• BD
  Jul 26, 2007 at 5:50 pm

  LP..sorry to hear about.. that but Im sure their has been alot more fraud done by her than you probably know about. Im going to speak to my friend who was taken by her for about 30,000 plus..maybe civil charges brought against her would give her more time. I actually need to find out what he has in writing or other proof of money given to her.

• Lost96
  Jul 27, 2007 at 12:30 am

  if more people would file these charges than Fisher can have more jail time and as far as her havin a good time in jail– blah-blah I dont think thats whats happening in her case- yea shes gettin three meals a day, place to sleep, but think about it when she is there with all the higher crime woman ..boy would i like to be a field rat in the cell to see her weeping, crying and suffering… after all we all do no thats what she deserves. I do no that not enough people pressed charges that she stole from. they didnt want to get invloved but she needed to be stopped sooner or later- she was jus out of control. im wondering if she is still in county jail or state yet?

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Jul 27, 2007 at 12:43 am

  LP, really sorry to hear this…… it all makes me wonder even more at the credentials of various “autism professionals.”

• BD
  Jul 27, 2007 at 10:06 am

  As far as I know still county then being moved to Clinton womans facility.. I think people are starting to realize now how bad it was and will start filing charges. I think we will all be suprised to see how many people actually come forward.

• Lost96
  Jul 28, 2007 at 11:42 am

  oh clinton- i have been looking on the department of corrections (Doc) site for her but shes not there yet so im guessin still in county..

• DAVID
  Aug 30, 2007 at 5:04 pm

  I HAVE KNOWN NANCY SINCE HIGH SCHOOL. SHE IS MY OLDEST FRIEND I AND LOST TOUCH WITH HER 2 MONTHS AGO…NOW I KNOW WHY. HER CHILDHOOD WAS A NIGHTMARE OF SEXUALLY ABUSIVE ALCHOHOLIC PARENTS AND BROTHERS.SHE WOULD MAKE UP STORIES OF FAKE RELATIVES TO ESCAPE THE HORRORS OF HER HOMELIFE. I KNOW HER BETTER THAN ANYONE.I KNEW ABOUT THE CHARGES SCHOOL MONEY FOR HER AUTISTIC SON BUT NOT OF THE OTHER CHARGES.
  SHE HAS HAD A TOUGH TIME DEALING WITH HER AUTISTIC SON AND TRYING TO GET HER HUSBAND TO HELP HER OUT MORE.SHE CLAIMED HER EX-HUSBAND WAS DOING EVERYTHING HE COULD TO NOT GIVE HER MONEY.I AM NOT AT ALL CONDONING WHAT SHE DID BUT SHE TRIED TO KEEP A ROOF OVER HER CHILDRENS HEADS AND DID WHAT SHE HAD TO DO TO ACHIVE THAT.I HAVE PERSONALLY TALKED TO A FEW OF HER OLD PATIENTS AND ONE WAS AN OLD SCHOOL CHUM. SHE LOVED THE TIME NANCY SPENT WITH HER.SO AS YOU SEE IT’S NOT ALL OF THE STORY.SHE WAS A GOOD FRIEND TO ME AT TIMES OF GREAT CRISIS IN MY LIFE WHEN NO ONE ELSE WAS THERE.

• RS
  Aug 31, 2007 at 9:05 am

  You have got to be kidding!! I almost think David is really Nanci and writing this from jail. No one in their right mind would stick up for someone who is so devious and deceptive as her. Thank God for her exhusband who has never stopping caring or supporting the children. If you don’t know the whole story, you shouldn’t comment. She’s where she belongs and should stay there!!

• DR
  Aug 31, 2007 at 10:20 am

  Poor David is obviously as taken as all the other victims and is not aware that Nancy has been given her childsupport faithfully. It’s ok David, we know how it is to have that last little thread of wanting to still believe her. It’s too bad that she actually OWES her ex back a substantial quantity of money, since she worked the whole time she collected the child support while claiming to be unemployed to collect it. So one thing is correct David, you don’t have all the facts. She got less than she deserves. But that’s ok. Because now, I’m sure, more people won’t put up with her now that she has a record. Jail is her home.

• DAVID
  Aug 31, 2007 at 3:08 pm

  IN RESPONCE TO RS…

  I SAID DIDN’T CONDONE WHAT SHE DID.LIKE I SAID I DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER STUFF.. LIKE NOT BEING WHO SHE WAS CLAIMING TO BE.I’VE KNOWN HER 36 YEARS MORE THAN ANYONE ON THIS SITE.I’M TALKING ABOUT FRIENDSHIP.I DATED HER WHEN SHE WAS 14 TILL AGE 16 SO DON’T PREACH TO ME ABOUT FACTS. I WAS THERE AT THE MOST HORRIFIC TIMES IN HER LIFE.I SAW THE bRUSISES AND HEARD THE CRYING.WE DON’T JUDGE OUR TRUE FRIENDS NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. TRUE FRIENDS ARE LIKE FAMILY JUST NOT OUR BLOOD.WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN.WE TRY TO HELP IF THERE IS A PROBLEM.IF WE DON’T KNOW THE PROBLEM…..WE CAN’T HELP.FOR THE GUYS ON LINE SHE MET AND USED…..STOP GOING TO DATING SITES….INTERNET IS misinformation.GO TO A LAUNDROMATE,BINGO OR CHURCH. GIVING HER MONEY PROBABLY DIDN’T MATTER AS LONG AS THEY WERE GETTING L**D.THEY FELL FOR HER B.S AND GOT BURNED. TOUGH! ONE THING NO ONE HAS SAID YET. I DIDN’T HEAR OF ANYONE GETTING HURT OR BEATEN THAT SHE TOOK CARE OF.SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT SOONER. WE SEE THAT IN THE PAPERS EVERY DAY.
  FOR THE RELATIVES WHO PAID FOR SEVICES TO THEIR LOVED ONES.WAS SHE GOOD TO THEM? DID THEY LIKE HER? DOESN’T THAT ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE SOMETHING? DID YOU EVERYELL AT YOUR CHILD OR CRIPPLED LOVED ONE BECAUSE OF THE STRESS AND PAIN IT CAUSED YOU.
  AND I SPOKE TO A PARAPALIGIC WOMAN I KNEW FROM HIGH SCHOOL THAT SHE CARED FOR MANY TIMES.SHE WOULD CALL ME WHEN HER OTHER CARETAKER WAS THERE. HER COUSIN WAS MY BAND MEMBER.SHE LOOKED FORWARD TO HER TIME WITH NANCY.NANCY WAS VERY UPSET WHEN SHE DIED BECAUSE SHE WASN’T THERE THAT NIGHT.
  PARAPALIGICS NEED CONVERSATIONS AND STORIES TO HELP THEM REMEMBER WHEN THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO WALK. ONE THING IS….SHE KNEW ABOUT AUTISM.IT WAS NO PARTY FOR HER LIFE WITHHER SON TYLER.
  HE WASN’T AS BAD AS MOST.BUT STILL DAY AFTER DAY WITH HIM OR ANYONE WITH AN AUTISTIC CHILD IS NO PERFECT DAY.I WORKED AS A DRIVER FOR THE DAY CARE ACROSS FROM THE NORTH JERSEY TRAINING SCHOOL FOR A YEAR.TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING OF 5 KIDS(even with the aid driving with me) WAS TAXING TO THE BRAIN. I STARTED SINGING AND TELLING LITTLE STORIES AND SLOWLY OVER TIME THEY BECAME ATTENTIVE AND RELAXED.WHEN THEY SANG WITH ME IT MIGHT ONLY BE A PARTIAL WORD HERE AND THERE BUT I’M A MUSICIAN. THEY WERE ON CUE!

  I CRIED FOR DAYS WHEN ONE LEFT OR DIED.ANYWAY YOU’LL BE HEARING MORE FROM ME AS I GET THESE RESPONCE EMAILS.AS FOR HER BEING IN JAIL.SHE DID WRONG!SHE WAS PUNISHED BY A COURT OF LAW.AS TIME GOES BY SHE MAY GET MORE TIME.FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH TERRIBLE THINGS FOR HER WHILE SHE’S INCARCERATED…SHAME ON YOU! MY FAVORITE SAYING”But for the grace of GOD go I”.ONE MORE THING! JUST CAUSE I KNEW NANCY DOESN’T MAKE ME AN IDIOT! I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW MY FRIEND WELL ENOUGH NOT TO EVER GET TAKEN.I KNEW OF A DARK SIDE BUT I DIDN’T GET BURNED.AS FOR THE PERSON WHO THINKS THIS IS NANCY USING A COMPUTER FROM A COUNTY JAIL.>>WELL….SHOWS HOW IGNORENT YOU ARE.I’M HANDICAPPED. I CAN’T GO TO MY MAILBOX OR LEAVE THE HOUSE FOR DAYS AT A TIME……BUT COME KNOCK ON MY DOOR AND SAY THINGS ABOUT ME TO MY FACE. I’LL SHOW YOU WHAT FRIENDSHIP IS ALL ABOUT.

• BD
  Sep 3, 2007 at 11:06 am

  You really THINK that you knew this person …trust me you didn’t.. aside of all the people she conned for money not necessarily for sex but for her own selfishness and greed!! is more like it.. always preying on the weak and using Tyler as an excuse for her OWN satisfaction. I dont care if you knew her 50yrs that dosen’t mean you knew the person she was. For someone to say their mother died and talked about the funeral and services and acutually “CRIED” to make you believe it really happened and you express your sympathy and condolences to her and offer your heartfelt compasion for Nancy…then find out 1yr later her mom is ALIVE and WELL (god bless her) that’s just one example of Nancy ..so in other words she didn’t beat up her patients and we should believe their is actually some good in her ..Come on..so you knew her how long?? bet you didn’t know that?? In fact I can’t think of a more disturbed or demented thing to say of the person who gave BIRTH to HER!!

• Regan
  Sep 3, 2007 at 6:40 pm

  Wow. I don’t know if this is a case of simple fraud or someone who has a standing history as a pathological liar.
  The fact is that she represented credentials that she did not have and took significant money for services that she was incompetent to deliver, had a trial and a sentence was imposed after said trial.
  There are many people out there with difficult circumstances who are not committing larceny. Having special needs children do not automatically make us martyrs or saints, but I’ll settle for not breaking the law.

• FL
  Sep 4, 2007 at 9:41 am

  This is to David. I have an autistic son. I happened upon this commenting/blog.
  This woman sounds like a con! You sure defend her profusely!!! I don’t see you saying anything about the poor victims, just poor Nancie. You say you weren’t dumb enough to get ‘taken by her’ but you never stopped her! Don’t you think in your 35+yrs, you should have stopped her or had her stopped if you knew what she did?!
  Also, I found this amusing. You say you were a driver for daycare, yet you say you are too handicapped to go to your mailbox or leave your house??? Plus the daycare you drove for just happened to be handicapped children? Come on!
  Either you are a con just like Nancie or a pathological liar just like Nancie. Or maybe you’re her John and you’re sad that your highest earner is behind bars. Why else are you saying she took money for sex and too bad for these men who gave it!! Sounds to me like she’s right where she needs to be! They don’t put victims in prison! They put criminals in there, in hopes to reform them so they stop HURTING more victims. Get it?
  I’m sure glad I had honest people helping me with MY autistic son! I wouldn’t want her NEAR my son! Or my husband, for that matter!!
  I think people who victimize the handicapped are below pond scum! No matter how you justify it, THAT is reality.

• CJ
  Sep 4, 2007 at 10:34 am

  The more “David” writes, the more he sounds like Nancie. (And, believe me, I have a ream of EMails to back this up.)

  If you are real, David, just remember that it wasn’t your child’s college fund she stole, maxing out all equity so I could never recover a penny. You were’t the guy she forced into bankruptcy, you weren’t the mother she conveniently kept telling people (at least 6 of us) had just died to get her own way. She should never be allowed back into society again.

  I will admit to being a fool, but not a liar, and I will do everything I can to see that she is kept behind bars. Unfortunately, an atesticular prosecutor in Ocean County has told me it’s all my fault that I was lied to… I have since done some research on Jersey law and offer the following for any of you who may have been hoodwinked by her: N.J.S.A. 2C:20-4. This is the law on Theft by Deception that the atesticular prosecutor chose to ignore when I talked to him.

  I have hesitated to use this forum because it’s intended for helping children with autism, not discussing the scum that exploit them.

  And just one little postscript, in case you’re wondering… I never had sex with her. I prefer feminine women.

  [Sentence edited by blog administrator.]

• RS
  Sep 4, 2007 at 10:34 am

  My comment definately touched a nerve with David (or whoever it might be). That was some reply….I just don’t buy it! I don’t think you’re as good of a friend as you say or you’d know more of the facts! There are so many inconsistencies in your reply, it’s almost comical!!

• Joe
  Sep 4, 2007 at 11:16 am

  Hey David,
  What is your last name? You say she was your best friend. Boy, I’d hate to see your WORSE friend, if she’s your best!
  Please enlighten me about friendship. So where are you from, anyway? Hooterville?

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Sep 4, 2007 at 12:06 pm

  As a parent (and a parent who lives in New Jersey), it was very hard to hear about Nancie Fisher’s case. I hope that we might be supportive of each other and think of how to prevent this sort of situation from occurring again.

• Amanda
  Sep 4, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  A sad case with many unfortunate stories. Parents must be extremely careful in who they trust with their children - only experts with credientals that can be proved and verified should be trusted.

  Fellow commenters and readers, please do not reply to LP. She is the unstable wife of Mr. Chatsko, who is the father of Ms. Fisher’s children, and is only looking for more ways to put the children down while they are in her care. If you wish to press charges against Ms. Fisher, I suggest you do it yourself than go siding with a woman out for revenge.

• DAVID
  Sep 4, 2007 at 1:13 pm

  I CAN’T BELIEVE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE MISREAD WHAT I SAID IN MY EMAILS.FIRST OF ALL TO LS….. I DID DRIVE HANDICAPPED KIDS IN THE LATE 70’s EARLY 80’s IN TOTOWA NEW JERSEY ACROSS FROM THE NORTH JESEY TRAINING SCHOOL.
  I HAD A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN 11 YEARS AGO FROM JOB STRESS AND 12 HOURS A DAY AT THE COMPUTER AND NOW HAVE AGOROPHBIA AND HAVE TROUBLE LEAVING THE HOUSE. I NEVER CONDONED WHAT SHE DID AND I JUST STATED ABOUT HER ABUSE AT HOME AS A CHILD MIGT BE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN HOW HER LIFE TURNED OUT.
  I STATED I KNEW ABOUT THE MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FOR THE SCHOOLING THING BUT I THOUGHT SHE WAS A REGISTERED NURSE.I DON’T CHECK CREDENTIALS OF MY FRIENDS. WHAT SHE DID WAS DEPLORABLE YES…..BUT STILL DID NOT HEAR OF ANY PHYSICAL ABUSE TO HER PATIENTS ALTHOUGH NOW THAT I’VE MENTIONED THAT SOMEONE WILL TRY TO CASH IN ON THAT ANGLE. I ASKED THE QUESTION IN ONE EMAIL….. DID SHE STREAT THE PEOPLE SHE WAS CARING FOR WELL? I AM HER FRIEND NOT HER PIMP JUST A LONGTIME FRIEND.
  I DO KNOW THE NAMES OF A FEW PEOPLE SHE DATED ON lINE AND THEIR. INITIALS SOUND LIKE SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTERS OF THIS SITE THAT SAY A “FRIEND GOT TAKEN FOR MONEY”. I HAVE ONLY SEEN NANCIE THREE TIMESHERE IN FLORIDA OVER THE PAST 12 YEARS BUT SPOKE TO HER ONCE A WEEK. I KNEW HER WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN I WASN’T BEING TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THINGS THAT CONCERNED ME.THE ONLY REASON I EVEN FOUND THIS SITE WAS BECAUSE I HADN’T HEARD FROM HER IN THREE MONTHS AND DID AN INTERNET SEARCH.AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO STILL THINK NANCIE IS WRITING THESE FROM PRISON YOU ARE WRONG.I’M JUST A LONGTIME FRIEND.I’VE KNOWN HER A LONG TIME AND I WOULDn”T HAVE GIVEN HER MONEY FOR HER MOMS FUNERAL. FOR THOSE WHO GOT CONNED…..DON’T GIVE PEOPLE YOU MET ON A DATING SERVICE MONEY. HAVE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR IN MY OTHER EMAILS NOW? SHE IS IN EDNA MAHAN WOMANS CORRECTIONAL NOW AND WILL HAVE A LONG TIME TO THINK ABOUT HER WRONG DOINGS WITH PROBABLY MORE CHARGES AND TIME IN JAIL YET TO COME. SHE STILL IS MY FRIEND.

• RS
  Sep 4, 2007 at 1:59 pm

  This comment is for Amanda. Unfortunately I cannot agree at all with your comments about LP. I have formed a friendship with her because of this website. Thank God that she is understanding enough to take in Ms. Fishers children. You should think about how this mess their mother caused has turned everyones life up-side down, especially LP. She’s trying and thats more than most are doing! I don’t remember reading in any posting, anything negative about the children. Shame on you!!

• CJ
  Sep 4, 2007 at 3:50 pm

  Amanda…?

  Her daughter???

  The one she sent overseas using a friend’s credit card which was only repaid when I gave her cash for the mortgage…? That she never paid?

  To show everyone, here is a clip from my email archives…

  FROM HER (then) FRIEND: >Working with her what the hell does that mean? listen I am some idiot who believed
  all her bull s***, and felt sorry for her. In the mean time I gave her money for
  her daughters trip to Turkey on my charge card. because the the kid was crying and
  was leaving that day.that was in August. she has since written me a check that I
  can’t cash because of course there is no money in her account. (END)

  Unfortunately, I cannot find the message where this person said Nancie had paid her… on the day I gave Nancie $1400 to pay the mortgage, which she never paid. And the house was foreclosed.

  If you are THAT Amanda, keep posting, and I’m certain you will learn all about your mother.

• Regan
  Sep 4, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  Kristina said,
  “I hope that we might be supportive of each other and think of how to prevent this sort of situation from occurring again.”

  Agreed.
  In our circumstances we are simultaneously a vulnerable population and one that is a target for all kinds of apparent scams or folks who might see dollar signs.
  I’m not going to critique those who might be taken, because my understanding is that scam artists are extremely good at fooling people who act in good faith themselves. I think that we have to become tough-minded skeptics who ask people to present credentials and then follow those credentials to the source to find out if those are legit before writing the check or taking it on faith.
  It’s sad that that there are those who would take advantage of others’ difficult situations, but I suppose that they have always been around.
  Caveat emptor.

• Regan
  Sep 4, 2007 at 4:07 pm

  BTW–If anyone states that s/he is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA) or a Board Certified Associate Behavior Analyst (BCABA), you have an immediate course to checking those credentials at http://www.bacb.com under the certificant registry.
  Not all the certificants are listed there, BUT EVERY BACB certificant should be able to provide you with a certificant number that can be verified with the BACB. If the person can’t, that’s a red flag, and one that Gerald Shook, the Executive Director, would like to know about. The BACB is very interested in those who masquerade as Board Certified Behavior Analysts, and will issue a cease and desist order and pursue prosecution. There is also a listing at that site of the code of professional behavior.

• DAVID
  Sep 4, 2007 at 8:45 pm

  RESPONCE TO JOE…. INSTEAD OF SAYING SOMETHING PERTAINING TO THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS SITE YOU SEEM TO ONLY INQUISET ABOUT MY NAME ,WHERE I LIVE AND MY VIEWS ON FRIENDSHIP.MY NAME IS DAVID BATTAGLIA AND I LIVE IN PORT ST. LUCIE FLORIDA AND I WENT TO MANCHESTER HIGH IN HALEDON, N.J

  TO AMANDA……IF YOU ARE HER DAUGHTER PLEASE CONTACT ME AT DAVID_SHARGA@YAHOO.COM.AS FAR AS MY FRIENDSHIP WITH NANCIE GOES…WHAT CONCERN IS IT OF YOURS? SAY SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE INSTEAD OF MAKING ME WASTE MY TIME REPEATING MYSELF ON THE FRIENDSHIP DEAL.I’M NOT (as I say again) CONDONING WHAT SHE DID AND PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEIR OPINIONS….GOOD OR BAD. I STILL CAN’T BELIEVE SOMEONE WAS SO IGNORANT TO CALL ME HER “John”. NO BODY HAS STILL ANSWERED MY QUESTION. Did she treat your loved ones intrusted in her care good or abuse them?

  OH! by the way…..David Sharga is MY PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN NAME.AT LEAST I’M HONEST ABOUT MY NAME AND RESPONSES AND DON’T HIDE BEHIND
  INITIALS OR CRYPTIC EMAIL ADDRESSES.

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Sep 4, 2007 at 11:46 pm

  Or you could say, caveat pater et mater, as we become “tough-minded skeptics”…….

• The ex-husband
  Sep 5, 2007 at 12:10 am

  To all who have replied and to David; Nancy Fisher stole money from others under false pretenses, because she is nothing but a CON-ARTIST. She used the monies that she stole from others for her OWN self. She did NOT use those monies for her own children, who frequently told me they don’t have money for this or that. She used the money to party, golf and party some more. SELFISH, ARROGANT, RUDE, IGNORANT, OFFENSIVE, MANIPULATIVE, MOTIVATED BY MONEY and SHOWS NO REMORSE………are the words that the JUDGE told her at her sentancing hearing (I was there and took notes)! Nancy even gave an address of an ABANDONED house (in the courtroom, no less) when asked the whereabouts of her autistic son, so that I could go get him!!!!

  Dave, as far as “Who did she hurt that she cared for?”…….as far as I can count, dating back to Florida, four people passed away while Nancy was employed to care for them. Because she was untrained as a medical professional, do you REALLY think she did any good? Glorified babysitter is all she ever was. The kids told me that she would go away for entire weekends leaving them to care for the autistic child by themselves. My children did that because they LOVE him, and despise her for her evil deeds. She has stolen from every one of my family members, except one, and has stolen from ALL FOUR of her own children………..and she could care less. She has stolen from the Child Support system (I paid my child support on time and all the time) with her con of “I’m unemployed, my ex has to pay 100% for everything”……..and she didn’t even provide for the kids. Trust me, “she will not change unless she is stopped”……..and that quote came from the judge as she ordered Nancy to 3 years!

  Worst of all………….my autistic son is the one who has truly suffered. He is the one who will pay for the rest of his life because Nancy DID NOT have HIS progress as her No. 1 priority, her No. 1 priority was HERSELF!!!!

  You don’t know her AT ALL………you, my friend, have been CONNED……just like the rest of us!

• DAVID
  Sep 5, 2007 at 3:23 am

  YES……THE EX-HUSBAND. ONLY MET YOU ONCE 20 YEARS AGO WITH NANCY,JEFF AND HIS NEW WIFE AT A BAR IN HAWTHORNE N.J. NOPE ……SHE NEVER EVER CONNED ME.WHY….SHE KNEW SHE COULDN’T.SHE ASKED ME FOR THREE MONTHS AGO ON HER WAY BACK TO JERSEY SHE ASKED ME FOR $4000 DOLLARS TO GET HER FURNITURE OUT OF STORAGE BECAUSE HER HOUSE DIDn”T CLOSE.FRIENDSHIP RULE #1 & 2……NEVER BORROW OR LEND MONEY TO A FRIEND. THATS WHAT FAMILY IS FOR!I COULD ALWAYS TELL WHAT WAS TRUTH AND WHAT WAS NOT.I CAN’T JUDGE YOU BECAUSE I ONLY KNOW WHAT NANCIE HAS TOLD ME OVER THE YEARS.MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHY HAVEN’T YOU HAD THESE KIDS ALL THESE YEARS IF YOU KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.IF YOU MADE GOOD MONEY AND SHE SUPPOSEDLY WAS COLLECTING FROM OTHER SOURCES HOW COME YOU DIDN’T GET THEM.I’LL BET YOU ARE THRILLED TO HAVE THE RESPONCIBILITY THRUST ON YOU NOW THAT MOST ARE ALMOST GROWN UP EXCEPT TYLER. I KNOW MORE THAN YOU THINK D.YOU ARE NOT.DIDn”T SHE RAISE ONE OR MORE OF HER BROTHERS KIDS TOO! IF YOU LOOK AT HER BROTHERS LIVES YOU’LL SEE HOW SCREWED ANY KID WAS IN HER FAMILY.I DON’T SEE ANY OF HER KIDS COMPLAINING ON THIS SITE.WHO WAS PAYING FOR YOUR DAUGHTERS COLLEGE EDUCATION.WHAT DID YOU DO FOR THEM ALL THESE YEARS.I KNOW SHE WORKED FOR A FRIEND OF MINE FROM NORTH HALEDON AND SHE WAS THERE FOR 3 to 4 24 HOUR DAYS.SHE SAID THE KIDS WERE OKAY AND SHE REALLY DIDN’T LIKE BEING AWAY FROM TYLER. SICK PEOPLE DIE ALL THE TIME. SHE WASN’T WORKING THE NIGHT MY FRIEND DIED.WAS SHE ON DUTY WHEN THE OTHER PATIENTS DIED? YOU LEAVE A LOT OF THIS.I HAVEN’T HEARD ANY BAD REMARKS ON NANCIE FROM HER CHILDREN.IF YOU WANTED TYLER SO BAD YOU AND YOUR NEW SPOUSE OR GIRLFRIEND SHPOULD HAVE TRIED TO GET HIM SOONER…..HEY …YOU’VE GOT HIM NOW.ONE KID IN COLLEGE AND ONE ALMOST OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.PERFECT TIMING!…. MY OTHER FAVORITE SAYING IS. “DON’T WISH FOR SOMETHING TO BAD BECAUSE YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT.WELL ALL SAID AND DONE….. I REALLY DO WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN. TRY TO MAKE UP FOR THE YEARS YOU WEREN’T THERE! I REALLY MEAN THAT!

• BD
  Sep 5, 2007 at 8:44 pm

  Words very well spoken by CJ and ex-husband …that is Nancie Fisher …as for you David you are really trying hard to prove something so she didn’t beat up her patients (maybe she did) you seem so stuck on that what don’t you understand that she is a CRIMMINAL …she conned lots of people not all were getting l**d by her so that makes them bad men not the ones I know about they actually felt sorry for her because all she did was cried ..lied..and got her way. If you only knew the people personally that were taken by her you would understand why they tryed to help because they are “good” people that worked hard for their money ..so before you make accusations and say it was for sex know what you are talking about because you oviously don’t have a clue what your so called “friend” was even about.

• former therapist
  Sep 6, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  I am by no means a Nancy apologist. However, I would like to give another view on the subject.

  I was a therapist in her home no less than 20 hours each week for three years when she lived in Pittsburgh. I was one of her son’s first therapists using intensive ABA. Although Nancy was not always easy to deal with and a little hot-headed, I can say she always had her son’s therapy and best interests at heart. She advocated non stop for him with our agency, his school district, and her ABA consultants. She worked tirelessly to improve his programming often irritating those around her with her requests. I can say that his therapy benefited from it immensely. If she had let things go her son would probably have never talked.

  I was also a therapist when she was with her husband, and also when they subsequently divorced, and she moved to another town 20 miles away. During the entire time after the separation she was the ONLY parent at team meetings (and there were a ton of them), consultant visits, and IEP meetings with the school district. All 40 hours of his therapy took place in her home. Unfortunately, I have not been around the family for 8 years. I actually found this site because I too was looking for her to try and reconnect with her son who was the first child with autism I ever treated and whom I loved dearly. It saddens me so much to see what happened.

  As an autism professional, I am ashamed that she preyed on extremely vulnerable people, as she was one of those people at one time too. I am reminded of a saying that goes: “Hurting people hurt others.” Anyone who ever knew Nancy knew she was deeply hurt just by her behavior and mannerisms. Nancy is not an evil person, she is a sick person. Instead of wishing the worst on her we should be praying that she gets the help she deserves so that when she emerges from prison she does not continue the deception. I am sure none of us would wish this legacy on her children, so if she could finally deal with her “issues” she might be the mom they need.

  This obviously is no consolation to those duped or wronged by her. It is extremely unfortunate, and I hope and pray that your children get the help and advocacy that they need. Do not give up the fight for them they deserve all that you have.

• Amanda
  Sep 12, 2007 at 9:04 pm

  Yes, I am Ms. Fisher’s daughter. No, I am not here to stand up for my mother: we have all, children included, been lied to, stolen from, and repeatedly duped. My mother is a criminal and you are all free to press charges as you please. I, more than anyone else, know what my mother is really like.

  To Mr./Ms. CJ, the money was offered to me by Ms. Fisher’s friend and I told her, away from my mother, that I had full intention of paying her back from my very own pocket, which I still do. The woman who offered me the money did just that, offered it out of the kindness of my heart. At no point in time was she forced to say “Here is the money,” and at no point in time did she in any way, shape, or form did she lose her uniqually human aspect of free will that prevented her from saying, “No, I don’t want to do this.” And yet the matter is between her and I, not Ms. Fisher, her, and I. I do hope you understand this.

  I am sure that in e-mails and behind a computer, Ms. Laura Petrilli seems like a devoted wife, caring and charitable person, and a general good person. She may in fact still be that, but she has not shown that side to me or my two brothers placed into her care. She has accused my brothers and I of having “disease and infection” brought into her household, and has blamed her life of eating “ramen noodles and beans” and general “poverty” on my brothers and I, although we have not known her previous to her marriage to my father. She has pushed my younger brother down the stairs in arguements and calls the cops on a helpless teenager accusing him of physical abuse. I can understand that she is stressed and no doubt stuck in a very strange situation, but I do not think that that, at any point in time, enables her to mentally abuse any children placed into her care. I have great difficulty even contacting my brothers, and often do not get through unless they themselves pick up the phone. I’m sure you can understand how upset this makes me as a big sister.

  Anyone duped by Ms. Fisher has the right to press charges. Anyone who foolishly gave a stranger money and feels they have been conned has the right to press charges. But I think that people are simply looking at Ms. Fisher as someone to vent their frustrations upon. She was not right in any of her actions, but no one is right to sit there and cry because of any involvement they have with her. Press charges, get your justice, and move on. Life is much too short to hold a grudge.

• The ex-husband
  Sep 13, 2007 at 8:08 am

  To Amanda, David and Kris:
  Seems like you folks just want to tell me that I’m a BAD father and don’t care about my children………I invite ANY of you to sit down with me and have a conversation so that you can see what has been going on since the ’90s.
  You have not idea except that of what Nancie has told you…….and once again, you have been conned. That is her game, as a con-artist, is to convince YOU of what she says.
  Amanda, please try to get the facts straight before you inform the world of your views…..which are incorrect, by the way. I tried to sit down and talk to you so that you can see what my life has been like because of your mom, but you just don’t care to listen. Try to talk to me, that’s all I’ve ever asked. “life is too short to hold a grudge.”
  David and Kris, I made a good paycheck ONCE for a short while when working out of town doing 60 hr. weeks 2-3 weeks in a row. Sorry I had to miss Tylers workshops and daily meetings…I was PROVIDING them all the lifestyle to which they had. The ONLY reason I was not more involved in my kids life or never GOT them as you say, is the court system is not as easy as you think to work with and Nancie kept moving and PREVENTED me from having contact with them. She intercepted the mail, wrote to me in emails claiming to be the kids, refused to answer the phone, had a cell phone as a contact number that the kids NEVER knew about, she NEVER met me for the court ordered visits. YOU try to fight in court and see what a waste of time it is (and money). I can’t make up for lost time or the fact that I missed my childrens own childhoods because of Nancie, and she can never repay me for that. I’m moving on with my life and if you wish to discuss somebody else in your life, get ALL the facts first before you open your mouth to others.

• The ex-husband
  Sep 13, 2007 at 8:17 am

  By the way: NOBODY has been pushed down the stairs, drugged, abused, starved, beaten or tortured at our home.
  I’m providing for my children the best I can with the NOTHING that Nancie has left me with.
  ps……….I’m VERY happy my sons are with me………….VERY HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!

• Kris
  Sep 13, 2007 at 8:19 am

  I actually do have an idea because I spoke to Nancie’s kids more than I spoke to Nancie as I am a close friend to the kids more than Nancie. Like I said in my original comment, Nancie needs help, she was certainly not right in what she did and I don’t begrudge you for feeling the way you (and her children) do toward her.
  However, sending money doesn’t make you father of the year. And no offense, but the stories that I have been told about you (personally by your children) doesn’t exactly make you father of the year.
  If you are truly moving on with your life that is great, but make sure that you move in the right direction.
  And one last thing, don’t assume that your case is unique. I have been through my own hassle with my parents in similar situations, although they are not a serious, they are certainly stressful. You live and learn and then move on. What you don’t do is take your frusterations out on your kids.

• DR
  Sep 13, 2007 at 10:03 am

  David, you say Nancie is your friend. Don’t friends respect each other? At least a little? Why then, did she try to con $4000 and profit from you for the storage things? Guess what? Newsflash. It doesn’t cost that much.

• BD
  Sep 13, 2007 at 12:39 pm

  David, I also can agree with DR I knew all about the storage and what she needed she asked me for it ..of course I knew better. Guess what the friend you thought she was that con game was on you it was much less. Hopefully you were smart enough!
  Amanda, the “foolish” people that you said were “strangers”.. NO they were close FRIENDS NOT STRANGERS. That’s what makes this so disgusting so please don’t think people were just dumb enough to do this. Im sure maybe some strangers might have been conned also but it still makes them victims, hopefully everyone will press charges!! This is NOT about venting frustrations on your mother like you claim we all have much better things to do in our lives we actually WORK for our money, afterall we only thought a FRIEND was desperate and cried out for HELP…so it wasn’t strangers..it was people that cared enough about her and her children. So guess what you simply put it like ” people don’t have the right to sit their and CRY” with any involement with your mother.. until you know how many lives were ruined because of her LIES I don’t think you have the right to tell people how they should feel. YES.. we can all press charges we know that. and im sure many have and will..but try to understand this is a very hurtful situation. I know it is you mother and you are trying to make light of the situation but telling people they are “venting frustrations” as you yourself know it’s not about that. We have moved on and she isn’t worth a grudge, as far as this forum goes It has brought alot of people together that thought they were alone and sometimes it helps to talk to others and share similiar stories.. and lies. So before you judge us and what we should be doing sit back and try to show some compasion for others hurt like yourself.. by your mother.

• former therapist
  Sep 13, 2007 at 1:36 pm

  Amanda I am so sorry to hear of how you have been hurt and dragged into this mess. I hope you are making a great life for yourself at college and distancing yourself as much as possible. My heart just breaks for you and your brothers to see you put in the middle of so much “adult junk”. I would really love to hear from you if possible to find out how your brother is doing. I do not want to be intrusive, however, I still keep his picture from when he was 6 on my desk as a constant reminder. Your mom gave it to me when I moved and I have treas.ured it. If you feel comfortable you can e-mail me at aba_autism@yahoo.com. Thanks.

• CJ
  Sep 17, 2007 at 11:06 am

  My daughter just told me she has paid off one of her college loans. I wanted to cry because I didn’t have the money for her. I made the mistake of trusting your mother. How are YOU paying for college? Just palms up? Try doing it like I did: Clean toilets!

  Can I get you out of Wonderland, Amanda?

  You seem to believe holding a grudge against your mother is as easy to overcome as forgiving someone who beat you at a game of Scrabble. I–yes, I–have kept a roof over your head for 5 years while your mother just kept lying and stealing… even when she had been caught–and promised she was not and would not lie again (want to see the emails?). If I didn’t make the payments, I would lose my credit and the property… (BTW, when I met her, my credit was 872 out of 900.—-I’m sorry I hold a grudge,)

  Let’s do some math, kiddo…

  She took me for $30,000; she took VL (he’s the one your mother claimed impregnated her with twins which she lost in the 9th month–hmmmm… helluva great RN!) for $50,000. I understand he had to declare bankruptcy.

  That makes $80,000. (But only if my math is better than your grammar.)

  I agreed to allow her to take a $60,000 line of credit against equity for home improvements. She drained it ($59,999.01) and never paid a cent. (YES! I have the documentation, that I got too late.) I’m so sorry I hold a grudge!

  She locked the mortgage account so I couldn’t follow her transactions. Well, Mommy and THEY will appear in the same court. (I know I’m picky… but I hold a grudge.)

  So, now we’re up to $140,000.

  Nearly $15,000 from the Stafford School District? (I think the amount was in the Abury Park Press.) That brings her theft level to $155,000.

  If my math is better than your grammar, that’s now $155,000. What is it that you want to do for a living? Teach English?

  If what I heard from other sources is correct, there was another $300,000 from the Paterson School Board, $10,000 from another guy (the guy whose golf clubs you hold?), And probably a bunch more from others we don’t yet know, in addition to those who are after her for bad checks–$35,000 for the kitchen,, and I remember another check to me for one of YOUR Christmas presents (blue topaz, as I remember. I kept that check as a memento).

  How much of that did you see????

  Obviously, your Turkish boyfriend isn’t helping. Hell, if if he thought anything about you at all, HE would have paid your expenses. You wouldn’t have had to go crying to your mother’s friend. (Yes, “crying”—her words)

  Please, Amanda, if you feel you must answer, have someone with a 9th-grade education check your grammar. I’m a college drop-out and very sensitive to that.

  In the interim, should we just pretend this is a game of scrabble?

• former therapist
  Sep 17, 2007 at 12:21 pm

  WOW!!!
  I understand CJ that you are extremely upset and rightfully so, but PERSONALLY attacking the teenage daughter of the woman who stole from you is not only cruel but is extremely misplaced. You are the adult here and should set the tone. To attack her grammar and her lifestyle is completely ridiculous. Does this behavior make you feel better? Why don’t you redirect your anger to attending Nancie’s parole hearings, and helping others prosecute her. Just as you feel Amanda can not understand what you have gone through, neither you can understand what Amanda has gone through, and will continue to go through for the rest of her life. Please do not assume that you are the only one hurting here. Nancie has left a lot of victims in the wake of her behavior, with her children being at the top of the list.

• CJ
  Sep 17, 2007 at 3:29 pm

  A quote from what “former therapist” has posted here: “Unfortunately, I have not been around the family for 8 years.”

  Therefore, s/he should not consider him/herself as as expert in this conversation because s/he is not aware of current happenings.

  I will answer him/her (it?) privately.

• Amanda
  Sep 17, 2007 at 4:52 pm

  Although I must also take responsibility for the actions that have developed on this forum, I would like to apologize to the original poster of this entry for straying from the topic.

  A public forum is not the place to be discussing the topics that these last couple of posts have centered around. The posters of these threads are immature and childish, and should know better than to act like a lot of children retaliating against the school bully. It would be better to create a separate thread elsewhere on the internet to discuss your injustices with Ms. Fisher, rather than to stray from what this topic is really about: warning the parents of autistic children about not only Ms. Fisher, but other people who are out to cause harm to their children and loved ones.

• CJ
  Sep 17, 2007 at 5:49 pm

  To all sane posters on this blog: If you will read my original post, I said I hesitated to post here because I felt this was a board for helping autistic children.

  But, enter Nancie Fisher…. and now her spawn.

  Amanda is so mature: “The posters of these threads are immature and childish, and should know better than to act like a lot of children retaliating against the school bully.”

  I am tempted to rip this spoiled brat to pieces. Too lazy to help paint rooms in the house… always somewhere else to be when work needed done…

  OK, Amanda, since we are the “childish” elements here… In your ADULT wisdom and opinion, tell me how I can recover my $30,000 from your mother. How VL can recover his $50.000 from your mother and have the bankruptcy removed from his record.. How can the various jurisdictions regain the monies they gave to her…

  In the interim–between now and the time you can give a legitamate answer–I suggest you just crawl back into your hole.

  cj

• Kristina Chew, PhD
  Sep 17, 2007 at 11:09 pm

  Thank you to all commenters; please keep in mind that this blog is meant to help autistic children and autistic persons, to provide support and community. I hope that others can learn from the situation with Nancie Fisher.

• Pete W
  Oct 15, 2007 at 4:18 am

  Amanda, I guess i was fooled also, but oh well .
  I wish you the best in all you do.
  Peter

• BD
  Oct 17, 2007 at 3:24 pm

  Seems like more and more people finding out about nancie..Good thing for this blog I think it has helped many people come together who thought they were alone.

• mc
  Nov 7, 2007 at 6:29 pm

  Is she in Jail? I hope so. I was taken for $1,000.

• mc
  Nov 7, 2007 at 6:30 pm

  Is she in Jail. I hope so. She took me for $1,000

• The Cousin
  Jan 20, 2008 at 10:33 pm

  Well I just came upon this site today so I doubt any of you will see this but non the less I would like to address a few of you. First David…The first thing you said to make me wonder about you was that you dated Nancy when she was 14 til she was 16. Well she came to Calif to live with me at age 14 and married her first husband within a year. So I do not know who you are. Unfortunately reading your Posts YOU are not the kind of friend Nancy needs as you seem as delusional as her.
  CJ….I met you when we went to see Nancy in Jail when this all first happened and thought you were a nice man who had the misfortune of meeting and being taken in by Nancy…I am SHOCKED to see you going at Amanda..SHAME ON YOU! You of all people should know how very conniving and deceitfull Nan can be and how very much Damage she did to all around her ..not the least of which are her children. NO ONE can imagine what it must be like to be deceived by of all people your mother! So please back off Amanda. To the rest of you I have known Nancy my whole life although we lived on seperate coasts and in the later years were not in communication often. So believe me when I say Nancy COULD be very convincing….I was the one who flew across the country.. based on lies Nancy told me… to watch Tyler the day she went to Jail. You see I HAD NO IDEA of any of this,,,NO IDEA she had impersonated a nurse all these years(I thought she had a nursing license as my Aunt… Nancy’s Mother had payed for her to go to nursing school…yes I am the one who brought to light that her mom was still alive…and I am the one who HAD TO SEE HER MOM later that same day Nancy went to jail and fill her in…NO IDEA she was passing herself off as an LICENSED advocate for autism…..NO IDEA she was going into court to GO TO JAIL! So I spent the day with Tyler at the NJ shore only to be contacted by the DA’s Office hearing they were looking for me and Tyler!! You see D (the Ex) wasn’t lying Nancy did send the Marshals on a wild goose chase to an empty *her forclosed (and CJs) house. This made me look like a kidnapper!!! I had to meet the marshals and turn Tyler over to his Father and Tyler was happy to see him. I do not live in that home so I can not say what is what…but I do know that I personally saw records of child support that was paid by D (father) Someone said paying child support didn’t make him Father of the year….well maybe it doesn’t but isn’t the SUPPOSED ROOT of all this that Nancy didn’t get ANY financial help? Well she did and Now I find she WAS given money for Tylers schooling and that was the one thing I thought she was always fighting for financial aid to help with Tyler.. So am I angry you bet…. You see I KNOW Nancy and KNOW she has always told Tales and lies! But even I could not believe the extent of her lies. I was sickened to learn she had taken advantage of other parents of Autistic children when she herself is one…how could she?
  Living so far away I was not there to see any of this …the short time I spent with her and the kids a few years ago I thought SHE FINALLY had gotten it together and they were all doing good, Amanda and her other brother are both extremely bright loving kids. Tyler was a happy kid as well. I am very sad and sickened by all Nancy has done..she is a very sick person and needs help. I feel for all her victims….There is NO excuse for what she did. However through it all I saw that she loved her children( before you all start saying how could she…she DID care for them support them and raise them to be smart loving people..I myself sometimes wonder how since she had no sense of morality it now seems..but she did) ….. and I wish her no ill will just that she gets help. None of us can know what makes a person do what they do and thankfully most of us do the right thing.
  I talked to many of you that week after Nancy went to jail and learned more than I ever hoped to know about the harm she did. I wish I believed more in the justice system..I fear Nancy will not get the help she needs and that she may be released sooner than later. In this small space and forum we can not touch upon who Nancy is or tryed to be and should not do so…it is not the place. What we KNOW to be TRUE is she hurt and defrauded many people. She is now and rightfully so in jail for this. It is scary to think that she cared for people with out the proper qualifications. I personally am thankful that the families that questioned her qualifications did so and that she was stopped. I DO WONDER and AMAZE AT HOW these Nursing companies could hire Nancy without seeing her credentials.. do they NOT screen these people? THAT FRIGHTENS me! I also hold them accountable to the families they employed Nancy to care for. My thoughts are with you all and my hope is that the reason this post was started..TO INFORM people to CHECK certifications,qualifications and BACKGROUND when hiring ANYONE as a care giver or advocate or teacher will help others in the future.

• DAVID
  Jan 22, 2008 at 1:09 pm

  TO THE COUSIN….YES I DID DATE NANCY FROM THE TIME SHE WAS 14 YEARS TO ALMOST 16 AND NEW HER FROM GROWING UP ON MERRILINE AVE. TILL SHE LIVED WITH HER MOM AND RODDY AT THE APARTMENTS IN WEST PATERSON. SHE LEFT NEW JERSEY TO CALIFORNIA ON VACATION WHILE WE WERE STILL DATING AND SHE WAS A SOPHMORE IN P.V HIGH SCHOOL.I BELIEVE SHE LEFT FOR CALIFORNIA IN JULY OF EITHER 1972 OR 73 AND I DID NOT SEE HER AGAIN UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE I MARRIED ON OCTOBER 31st,1975. I BELIEVE YOU ARE JEANNIES SISTER AND YOU ARE LINDA IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. YOUR PARENTS WERE GREAT PEOPLE.SHE HAS ALWAYS HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT YOU AND STILL SPEAKS HIGHLY OF YOU.. SHE KNEW GARY FROM A PREVIOUS TRIP AND WAS WITH HIM SHORTLY AFTER MOVING THERE AND THEN MARRIED HIM.I HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN ABOUT HER STRETCHING A STORY OR THINGS UP BECAUSE SHE HAD A ABUSIVE HOUSEHOLD. AGAIN I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD FRIEND TO NANCY BECAUSE OF THE FACT SHE NEEDED SOMEONE TO LISTEN….I JUST GOT A $300 PHONE BILL FROM JAIL AND NANCY DID NOT ME OF HOW MUCH THE COLLECT PHONE CALLS WERE. I TRIED TO HELP HER MAKING CALLS FOR HER TO DIFFERENT AGENCIES ON HER BEHALF….I COULD NOT AFFORD THESE CALLS SO I HAVE FINALLY BEEN TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.MAD…..NO BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER BUT NO MATTER WHAT SHE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE MY FRIEND.I HOPE THIS CLEARED MY IDENTITY UP FOR YOU.NANCY HAS I DEBT TO PAY AND AMANDA AND I SPOKE FOR AN HOUR OR SO TWO MONTHS AGO…SHE WANTS HER MOTHER TO GET HELP AND IS ANGRY AT A LOT OF THINGS HER MOM DID.THEY WILL HAVE TO WORK THINGS OUT.WILL NANCY EVER CHANGE HER WAYS AFTER THIS……IT’S UP TO NANCY AND IF SHE WANTS TO EARN RESPECT FROM HER CHILDREN SHE WILL HAVE TO WORK HARD. I HOPE SHE DOES.