The Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee Meets on Nov. 30
More US appoints autism advocates to new federal panel reads a headline from an article in Reuters (November 27th). The new federal panel in question is the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee (IACC). As noted in a November 27th press release from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS):
HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt announced today the members appointed to the Department of Health and Human Services’ new Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee. This committee coordinates efforts within the department to combat autism spectrum disorder through research, screening, intervention, and education. The committee will facilitate the efficient and effective exchange of information on autism activities among member agencies, and coordinate autism-related programs and initiatives.”This important committee will play a key role in coordinating autism research, services, and education related to autism spectrum disorder,” Secretary Leavitt said. “I’m pleased that its members bring to the committee a wide range and great depth of expertise, including research and program administration, advocacy and personal experience with the condition.”Authorized under the Combating Autism Act of 2006, the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee advises the HHS Secretary and the Director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Secretary Leavitt delegated the authority to establish the committee to the NIH, which designated its National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) to lead this activity.The committee chair is Thomas R. Insel, M.D., director of NIMH.
These are the federal members of the IACC:
Duane Alexander, M.D., is director of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development at NIH. James Battey, M.D., Ph.D., is director of the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communications Disorders at NIH. Ellen Blackwell, M.S.W., is a health insurance specialist of the Division of Community and Institutional Services, Disabled and Elderly Health Programs Group, Center for Medicaid and State Operations, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services where she serves as an expert on policies that affect individuals with autism spectrum disorders. Margaret Giannini, M.D., F.A.A.P., is director of the HHS Office on Disability. Dr. Giannini serves as advisor to the Secretary on HHS activities relating to disabilities.Gail Houle, Ph.D., is associate division director of the Research-to-Practice Division, Early Childhood Programs, Office of Special Education Programs, Department of Education where she oversees programs for children with disabilities and their families funded through the Individual with Disabilities Education Act. Her expertise focuses on services for children with autism spectrum disorders. Larke Huang, Ph.D., is senior advisor on children and a licensed clinical-community psychologist who provides leadership on federal national policy pertaining to mental health and substance use issues for children, adolescents and families for the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Thomas Insel, M.D., is director of the National Institute of Mental Health at NIH. Story Landis, Ph.D., is director of the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke at NIH.Cindy Lawler, Ph.D., is scientific program director of the Cellular, Organs, and Systems Pathobiology Branch, Division of Extramural Research and Training, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences at NIH. Patricia Morrissey, Ph.D., is commissioner of the Administration on Developmental Disabilities at the Administration for Children and Families. Edwin Trevathan, M.D., M.P.H., is director of the National Center on Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities (NCBDDD) at CDC. (Dr. Trevathan is representing Julie Gerberding, M.D., M.P.H., director of the CDC, on the committee.) Peter van Dyck, M.D., M.P.H., is associate administrator of Maternal and Child Health at the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA). Elias Zerhouni, M.D., is director of the National Institutes of Health.
And these are the non-federal members:
Lee Grossman is president and CEO of Autism Society of America (ASA) and the parent of a young adult son with autism. Yvette Janvier, M.D., is the medical director for Children’s Specialized Hospital in New Jersey. Dr. Janvier is also a clinical assistant professor in the Department of Pediatrics, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School. Christine McKee, J.D., has developed and manages an in-home therapy for her autistic child, creating and/or assembling all of the therapy related materials. Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN, is co-founder and president of the Coalition for Safe Minds. Ms. Redwood is also on the board of the National Autism Association. Stephen Shore, Ed.D., is executive director of Autism Spectrum Disorder Consulting. Drawing on his experiences as an individual with an autism spectrum disorders diagnosis, Dr. Shore presents and consults internationally on adult issues pertinent to education, relationships, employment, advocacy, and disclosure. Alison Tepper Singer, MBA, is executive vice president of Autism Speaks and is a member of the board of directors. She has both a daughter and an older brother with autism, giving her long-term, personal experience with the disorder.
And this is the agenda for a November 30th Meeting of the IACC.
I have sent in a written statement and hope to be speaking at the 3pm Open Session for Public Comment.Now, about being an autism advocate: On the surface, this phrase “autism advocate” would seem to refer to someone who advocates on behalf of autistic persons and issues that pertain, and that directly affect, their needs and interests. This is how I think of the term “autism advocate”: I do my best to be an advocate for one autistic person in particular, my son Charlie. However, as is apparent in the title of the Reuters article, “autism advocate” has often become synonymous with “advocate against vaccines and mercury in vaccines” and “advocate for curing autism.” From the Reuters article:
Advocates who believe vaccines may cause autism will join mental health professionals and neurologists on a new federal panel to coordinate autism research and education, the U.S. Health and Human Services Department said on Tuesday………Some of the committee’s members have been at odds with government agencies in the past. Registered nurse Lyn Redwood, president of the Coalition for Safe Minds, has frequently accused the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of covering up evidence that vaccines cause autism.
Another member, Lee Grossman, is president of the Autism Society of America, which also argues that vaccines can cause the disorder.
Many medical studies have failed to show evidence that vaccines or their ingredients cause autism. The Institute of Medicine, which advises the federal government on health matters, issued an unusually strongly worded report urging that researchers look elsewhere for a cause for autism but the advocacy groups are unconvinced and are vocal about it.
I do what I can to advocate for autistic persons. Owing to the fact that I am, indeed, the mother of an autistic child who has many needs and that I also work full-time—and as it is pretty much impossible to get regular, affordable, quality after-school care for my son—-and due to my husband, Jim Fisher, having a long commute both ways to his job in New York because we live deep in the New Jersey suburbs as it is here that we have found the right kind of autism education for Charlie—-owing to all this, this weblog is my main source of advocacy:
I chose the word vox for the title of Autism Vox because vox and the -voc- in advocate share the same Latin root word, voco, “I call.” While “Autism Vox” literally means “Autism Voice,” by no means is this blog meant to be the “voice of autism.” There are many blogs by autistic authors that are all about autism from the inside out. As the mother of Charlie, my son who has autism, I am called everyday to translate his sometimes garbled speech and his needs. I am called to action and to advocate, and I believe that blogging on Autism Vox will help to spread the word.
At this point in his life, Charlie is not able to say all the things that he needs to say to advocate for himself. I don’t know if he will be able to so represent himself someday. I do know that, precisely at 1.30pm today at school, Charlie (who does not, as far as we can tell, know how to tell time) looked at the door and then at his teacher and said “Hi Mom!” A few minutes later, I walked in. Earlier today, a classmate came up to Charlie and said “Hi Charlie” and Charlie—who tends to respond to adults but not to peers—turned right around and said “What, Andrew?” (Just to give you a better idea of what this exchange looked like: Andrew is a few months older than Charlie, but a good head shorter.) Charlie talks more and can talk more for himself every day: In the mean time, I have to say what I can in his best interests, and in the best interests of autistic persons—I’ll try my best.
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64 opinions for The Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee Meets on Nov. 30
Another Voice
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:24 am
I wish you well and hope that your message resonates positively with that group.
I agree with your definition of advocate and I believe you live up to it. I would love to see your attitude become infectious and rub off on everyone in that room.
I do feel that Mike Leavitt missed the boat by not including anyone with autism. If his agenda was to quiet the screamers by including them; this may temporarily work. However, if you really want to deal with autism and learn about it, why not listen to their point of view? There is so much about autism that is not in any book.
Cliff
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:33 am
I read of this earlier. It should be noted, as a positive, that included is a participant on the spectrum.
From what I did read, I couldn’t tell if the anti-vaccine advocates were chosen for that position or simply had that position, as the articles I read weren’t clear on that point. If the former, I would be disturbed, so I hope not.
It would be nice to expect that actual autistics had a rather significant say in the panel, but it seem that this is not the case, in any event. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised, but it seems even at the federal level there simply isn’t a will to represent that.
Cliff
Marla
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:34 am
Advocating is a gift and I am so thankful to be my daughter’s advocate.
Another Voice
Nov 28, 2007 at 9:17 am
Cliff,
Sorry I missed that an autistic person was included. What is their name?
Cliff
Nov 28, 2007 at 9:40 am
His name is Stephen Shore (not to be confused with the photographer, which was the first recollection that caught my mind). Technical diagnosis was “atypical development with strong autistic tendencies”. He’s a kind of consultant for adult issues regarding the spectrum, along the lines of education and living environment. I can’t say I know much about him asides from that.
Cliff
Another Voice
Nov 28, 2007 at 9:48 am
Thanks Cliff, it is a step in the right direction. I still feel the non-federal selections could have been better.
Cliff
Nov 28, 2007 at 9:50 am
Hardly disagreeing on that count. Indeed, I am pretty disappointed on the whole. But I guess I will remain with (completely unfounded) hope that a position which might actually help individuals like me would be promoted.
Cliff
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Stephen Shore belongs to a group called unlocking autism. One of their stated beliefs is autism is caused by the devil and you need jesus. So having him there is having no advocate or worse an antiadvocate.
And then you have singer who stated she thought about killing her autistic daughter and herself but only stopped because she has a normal one home.
Also her autistic kid in that movie “autism every day” could be seen hugging and demanding attention which is quite the opposite of the rhetoric autism speaks spews.
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Unlocking autism has no religious affiliations when it comes to it’s policies that I have seen. I’m sure there are members that have religious convictions just like ASA, AS, members of neurodiversity, “mercury militia”, or any other special interest group.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 12:32 pm
from their website
“Help Defeat Autism In Jesus’ Name”
I know these kind of people. It is all about god punishing them
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 12:35 pm
And Cliff
when you say
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I’m sure there are members that have religious convictions just like ASA, AS, members of neurodiversity, “mercury militia”, or any other special interest group.
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You are just pulling it out of thin air with no facts. You dont know that at all. I dont think they promote a positive view at all.Why would anybody who promotes neurodiversity work with them?
Autismville
Nov 28, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Stephen Shore has his own web site:
http://www.autismexpertshore.com/
I think that would be the best resource to determine what his convictions are.
As for Allison Singer, she is both the mother and sister of individuals severely affected by autism. It appears to me that she is motivated by love of her daughter and brother.
Kristina,
Thank you for serving as our advocate. I am so thankful you are taking time out of your busy life to do this important work. It not only benefits Charlie, but I think it benefits my son as well.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 12:51 pm
what about individuals severely affected by other people’s bs?
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Singer gets quoted on behalf of Autism Speaks regularly in news articles—I wasn’t surprised to see her listed. I think you all have a sense about what I think and what not…….. Kassiane and Phil Schwarz (of the AANE) have essays in a book, Ask and Tell, which Shore edited. But I hope that more different perspectives can be represented, too.
And I do think that it would be important for Autism Speaks to someday note the response to the Autism Every Day video—-allowing oneself to be criticized is a sign of strength, not weakness.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Allow me to quote myself from AutAdvo. If you wondering why I am so harsh on those cater or turn a blind eye to less than positive views.
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Arent those who support CAN, Unlocking autism against us?? in NAZI germany, there were a lot of germans who would not ever gas a jew. But they did have less than favorable views of jews that enabled those who would gas.
Look at the GLBT in this country. duh? It is okay to be heterosexaul and proud if that is who u are. but to think of our GBLT brethern as less than human is the same enabling behavior that led to the holocaust.
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Point made?
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 1:25 pm
from their website
“Help Defeat Autism In Jesus’ Name”
That is a incorrect statement.
“Help Defeat Autism In Jesus’ Name” is from http://www.childrenofdestiny.org, an advertisement on the Unlocking Autism web site. Maybe you are confused between what is on the web site and what is advertised on the web site, which often conflict.
Did you confuse the picture of the US capital building on the Unlocking Autism web site to imply that it is all about the government punishing you?
Cliff
Nov 28, 2007 at 2:10 pm
thASman,
I think you misquoted me pretty heavily there.
But I did admit that I know little of Shore, though his website doesn’t carry the connotations you are suggesting. I probably would need his book to make better judgments.
Cliff
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 3:06 pm
I see so cliff you expect to see advertisements on websites for holocaust museums that advertise it was hoax??
Do you think they would tak ad promoting neurodiversity? is there one? I dont think so
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 3:35 pm
theasman,
Since I see ads promoting Jenny McCarthy on your web site that you fully support and endorse everything she says and does?
Kassiane
Nov 28, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Oh. Joy.
An autistic on a stick and a bunch of curebies and eugenicists. Shouldn’t it be the other way around, a bunch of autistics with token scientists and parents?
I have respect for Kristina. And I have respect for Stephen (we have talked, and argued even, at length about his methods, which I disagree with but I agree with his goals. Browbeating just isn’t his thing.)
I do NOT have respect for ANYONE who gets paid $150K a year to TALK ABOUT KILLING HER KID. NONE.
Put Jodie on that committee instead and see what SHE thinks.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 3:47 pm
Cliff
there is no Jeeny add on any of my sites. If you see one it is from google. Not put there explicitly by me unlike unlockingautism.org Do you work at a strawman factory?
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Just to clarify—-theasman, I think your most recent comment is directed to Chuck not Cliff.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Sorry It was a mistake part
Cliff
Nov 28, 2007 at 4:21 pm
That’s what I was referring to. Make sure you are referencing the right person, to whom I think you have consistently misplaced my name for Chuck’s.
Cliff
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 4:52 pm
theasman,
I do not work at a straw man factory. Do you understand the concept of paid advertisements?
You are receiving a benefit from Jenny’s advertisement on your web site even if you do not condone or believe the advertisement. The exact same thing can be said of the advertisements on the Unlocking autism web site.
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Maybe a better question to consider is why she is running advertisements at all.
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 5:10 pm
This is a good question,
Do you think they would take ad promoting neurodiversity? Is there one?
What organization would create and pay for a neurodiversity ad and where would they want to advertise?
Excellent question.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Chuck,
the difference is clear. I would not and have not put anything remotely like McCarthy’s ad on my site. It is fundamentally different to have a google ad banner with no intent vs with intent like unlocking autism. I think there is a way to ban certain ads from google but I have to check.
In my estimation you have no good argument for unlocking autism since you can only make an analogy to my ads which is different.
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 5:57 pm
There are paid advertisements on Unlocking autism web site and there are paid advertisements on your web site. Can you provide any proof that this statement is incorrect?
Chuck
Nov 28, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Lets try going down an easier path. Outside of the advertisement which is controlled by a different legal entity, can you substantiate your claim that Unlocking autism believes that
”autism is caused by the devil”?
Another Voice
Nov 28, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I feel that Alison Tepper Singer is an extremely poor choice for this panel or any panel for that matter. In the video she helped make for Autism Speaks she clearly states that the only reason she did not kill herself and her autistic child was a concern for her non-autistic child. She was presented with the opportunity to edit that out but decided to keep it in. That comment sickens me.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 6:26 pm
There is something specific that I am referring to. It has been a couple years. It would require me to spend time to find it.
The easier path is to ignore you.
Regan
Nov 28, 2007 at 6:26 pm
I read the post, I read the story and I studied the IACC website…
“…Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee. This committee coordinates efforts within the department to combat autism spectrum disorder through research, screening, intervention, and education. The committee will facilitate the efficient and effective exchange of information on autism activities among member agencies, and coordinate autism-related programs and initiatives…”
What do they actually DO? Coordinate and facilitate…issue a white paper…meet?
I don’t mean to be glib or cheeky. A lot of expert blue ribbon panels have met and position papers pumped out since my daughter was diagnosed. I’m just trying to figure out on a practical basis how much it is going to matter at all who is on this committee. Some money on direct service programs would be of least of equal value.
Another Voice
Nov 28, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I think it does matter. I have not given up on the government using panels and commissions to make a difference.
Regan
Nov 28, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Despite what I said, I have not necessarily given up, what I am asking is what is their charged task, and procedurally how will that facilitate and coordinate, and on what timeline?
If it does indeed fulfill that function, and that in turn results in meaningful change to the end-constituencies in some kind of firm and finite timeline, that is probably money and time well spent.
At this point it is plans and names.
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Since Autism Speaks has gotten to be such a large organization, and since Ms Tepper Singer speaks frequently for the organization (quotations in newspaper articles), I think it is getting more and more necessary that Autism Speaks and/or Ms Tepper Singer offer some response about the statements in the “Autism Every Day” video. Since she has the perspective of both (as noted in the press released) the mother and the sibling of an autistic person—since she has this personal experience—-it would be good to have her address this.
Autismville
Nov 28, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Maybe you could ask her about it on Friday. It’s amazing what we can learn when we talk face to face.
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 7:56 pm
I’d like to—-though from the agenda, the structure of the meeting is not set up for such exchanges. It was so hard to hear that statement being made by Tepper Singer on the video—her daughter was in the background of the room while she said it—–and the movie came out right at the same time as this. But face to face is important—hoping to get to that point.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:27 pm
I have spoken with Singer face to face. She is intransigent. I found her disingenuous . She keeps saying Autism speaks isnt looking for a cure or a prenatal test. Yet when confronted with facts that say otherwise she still keeps saying hoping I will believe it. It isnt about the truth it is about how many times you say it.
theasman
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Autismville,
You precede from the assumption that singer is necessarily right. Jodie is not severely autistic. and Even if she is it is not valid. Unless you want to set up death camps for those you feel are not worthy of medical care or life. Of course a pre natal test would allow you to have the death camps ie abortion clinics without the negative overtones.
Get rid of the undesirables before someone notices they exist.
Regan
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:39 pm
The statement on the AutismSpeaks video as it stands is kind of…horrific, no getting around that. However I speak as someone who has only seen the six minute clip, and neither the full length film nor the probably much longer raw footage.
If Kristina could get a take or reply on the specific question, it might not change a thing or be explanatory.
As far as stance or perspective, there is at least a flavor of that from,
Article for GRASP’s audience by Alison Tepper-Singer
“Cure is not a four-letter word”
Alison Singer
Senior Vice President, Autism Speaks
http://www.autismspeaks.org/whatisit/singer_commentary.php
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 8:53 pm
I don’t think I’ll make much of a change but slowly but surely, if we can keep spinning out a positive view and point out that “cure” is not the point……..and keep reminding the general public that Autism Speaks is just one perspective, and there are many more.
Thanks for the link Regan—-what was your sense of the impact of that essay by her?
Autismville
Nov 28, 2007 at 9:49 pm
theasman
WOW dude … you’re intense…Thanks for the shout out. :)
Peace and love!
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 28, 2007 at 9:51 pm
And hope.
Kassiane
Nov 28, 2007 at 10:35 pm
The Articles of Misunderstanding are one of the biggest travesties of our age.
Not only do they hold up the hf/lf, good autie/bad autie stereotypes, but they also ONCE AGAIN hold that “Oh I want any kid but mine”.
*vomit*
Regan
Nov 29, 2007 at 5:59 am
Hi Kristina,
You know it’s just my opinion
I don’t know what the impact is–there’s a lot of different articles that I see folks repeatedly pass around on different lists and in different circles that I am in. Except for briefly when it was first posted as part of the Articles of Misunderstanding, I never hear anything now.
As for how it read to me personally–I thought it sounded like something written by someone who had a tired and negative tone, a little inconsistent on details, exercising some generalization (my daughter has been classified as “LF” among other things and I would hesitate to term her as “not abled”) and that was hoping for some specific improvements, but using the word cure as a synonym. Based on the inconsistencies and negative tone, I have some concerns about point of view on a committee, but I also am still not completely sure what the charge and full weight of this committee is.
Harold L Doherty
Nov 29, 2007 at 7:31 am
“I don’t think I’ll make much of a change but slowly but surely, if we can keep spinning out a positive view and point out that “cure” is not the point”
Your honesty about “spinning” your point is refreshing. I understand the high functioning autistic persons who do not want to be cured. But why should parents of severely autistic children not have the right to seek a cure for their children?
Regan
Nov 29, 2007 at 8:23 am
Hmm. Cure is a funny word. I heard ads for years seeking cure for various cancers, diabetes, AIDS, muscular dystrophy, cystic fibrosis, etc., and now more often–autism.
To quote:
“Cure: 1. To heal, to make well, to restore to good health. Cures are easy to claim and, all too often, difficult to confirm.
2. A time without recurrence of a disease so that the risk of recurrence is small, as in the 5-year cure rate for malignant melanoma.
3. Particularly in the past, a course of treatment. For example, take a cure at a spa.
The word cure comes from the Latin cura meaning care, concern or attention. The current use of the word cure is believed to reflect the belief that the right care, concern and attention were tantamount to a cure.”
(End of quote).
(Taken from an online medical dictionary)
Perhaps some of the contention is in the definition–
theasman
Nov 29, 2007 at 10:16 am
Harold,
Why? for the same reason black parents dont want their kids that have
a) a higher risk of haert attack,
b) lower life expectency,
c)leukemia and
d)(tho is not more prevalent in black populations) mental retardation
cured of being black.
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 29, 2007 at 10:26 am
There’s not cure for autism—–thinking of curing autism is following the wrong paradigm. I’ve noted this earlier; am not able at the moment to find references for you, Harold. I suppose some would consider my husband very “high-functioning” in regard to his having ADHD which can be very severe at times. But the ADHD, while behind many painful struggles—the way his brain is “wired”—-also enables him to see things in a certain way; I’m referring here to his research on Catholicism and American culture and history and (more recently) the port of New York and New Jersey (”the Irish Waterfront”).
Cura (can’t resist etymology, to be honest) also has the meaning of “trouble,” as in needing to “take trouble” to do something.
Harold L Doherty
Nov 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Theasman
Autism is a neurological disorder, being black, or in my case Irish with some other heritages thrown in, is not. The analogy is inapt. And might be considered offensive by some members of racial minorities to be equated to a neurological disorder.
Ms Chew
I agree there is CURRENTLY no cure for autism. With the explosion in autism research taking place today that may not be true tomorrow.
Your husband’s situation is interesting. I worked on our provincial Autism Society Board with a very capable adult with Aspergers. His situation is not at all like my son’s who has limited communication and understanding of the world. If you do any internet reading at all you know that there are many serious cases of autism for which parents would obviously want to cure their children. Here is one example posted to my blog site previously sent to me by a mother here in New Brunswick, Canada:
“Heather R said…
Ihave a son who is 14 and severely autistic as well. I have had workers in my homw with him foe 2 years now. They told me it was sapposed to be only until we could get him some help. He needs an assesment and a medication overhaul where he went completly out of hand and uncontrollable during puberty. No hospital in n.b can take him. moncton refused him. I.W.K has been saying for the last year and a half the have no phycologist. I see a phycologist once every six weeks or so and we try something else. One of the medications made him bust through windows another gave him seizures. Right kow we have between 10-15 restraints were the workers hold him for from 15-40 minutes of tempertantrums.He wears a helmet so he won’t poke out his eyes. Hockey shoulderpads so he wont bite his arm to shreads. He was bad when the workers first came with severe wounds up an down his arms but the hospital said it was no place for him, so we treated him at home. He also wears towels on his hands to prevent pinching and towels on his legs. My little boy is in crisis and we have no hospital that can even evaluate him. I have been waiting for help for 2 years,how much more can we wait. Sure they’ll put him in a house if I can’t stand it anymore but they would get him treatment.”
Are you seriously suggesting that children with autism this severe, or so severe that they chew the insides of their cheeks, or bang their head until they cause brain injury, or run into traffic oblivious to their fate, that in such serious cases parents should not seek cures IF they become available?
theasman
Nov 29, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Harold
Autism is not a disorder. But a natural variation of being Human
theasman
Nov 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Harold
Their problem is not autism per se but an associated problem. When you remove the non autism part you get what is commonly called aspegers
Chuck
Nov 29, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Theasman,
Using your logic there is no need for any psychological disorder, treatments for coronary disease, cancer, and diabetes because they are all part of the natural variation of being Human. Is this the intention of your statement?
theasman
Nov 29, 2007 at 1:13 pm
No Chuck I did not say that.
Diabetes and coronary disease are diseases that should be cured. not alternative and valid wiring of the brain
Chuck
Nov 29, 2007 at 1:17 pm
How does one determine valid and invalid wiring of the brain?
Kassiane
Nov 29, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Bet as soon as I ask Harold’s definition of high and low functioning he dodges.
He never DOES give definitions. Ever.
So where are they. Or is the definition “If you arent like my kid, shut the hell up”?
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 29, 2007 at 3:14 pm
Harold, I’d rather be wary of assuming that because someone can talk, he or she does not suffer in ways equivalent to (though different from) the child you describe. Quantifying suffering is a dangerous game.
As you are a proponent of ABA, you well know that there are strategies to teach a child not to engage in the behaviors you describe. I have written regularly about my son’s SIBs and how he has learned to “manage” these. Best wishes.
Kristina Chew, PhD
Nov 29, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Also, Harold, it would be helpful to know your response to the mother whose email to you that you cited.
theasman
Nov 30, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Harold
Lets clear something up - Race is a construct fostered by history and convienence. There is scientifically speaking nothing to the concept of Race. In fact it was the who that recommended dropping race from its queries. What race is- is a set of inherited genes that may or may not depend on each other. The genes for leukemia present at a high rate in the black population has nothing to with the melanoma. There are people in parts of china who live in areas with high rates with malaria who pass on and have leukemia at higher rates.
So if I call the collection of inherited autism genes a race it is every bit as valid. The only context you could argue is historical. So Even if you eliminate environmental triggers that may or may not exist the child or adult is still autistic.
Regan
Nov 30, 2007 at 3:46 pm
I guess for me the idea of “cure”, in the medical sense of the word could be a long time coming or not at all, even with intense effort and focus, and to put all the eggs into that basket doesn’t do much for practical issues of the here and now…such as that described by Harold.
Autism Vox
Dec 1, 2007 at 1:28 am
[…] of Health and Human Services (HHS) to what Kirby terms a “new federal panel,” the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee (IACC). While there are number of new members on this committee, it is not “new.” ASA […]
Back from the IACC Meeting
Dec 1, 2007 at 12:49 pm
[…] in the rotunda of the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center, to be present at the Interagency Autism Coordinating Committee (IACC) meeting. The members of the IACC were seated at long tables in the middle of the room, and […]
IACC Strategic Planning Workgroup to meet April 21
Apr 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
[…] to research, educate, and screen for autism with the Department of Health and Human Services (go here for more information on the […]
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