Them’s Fighting Words
This is an incomplete list of words that, in discussions about autism, provoke much response.
- cure
- ABA
- appropriate
- epidemic
- diagnosis
- national emergency
- H/L FA
- mercury, thimerasol
- ab/normal
- cause
- person with autism
- poisoned
- tsunami
- damaged
- kidnapped
- stolen children
- empty shell
- devastating
- disease
- aversives
- geek
- Abubakar Tariq Nadama
- train wreck
- tragedy
- plague
28 opinions for Them’s Fighting Words
Camille
May 5, 2006 at 11:23 am
autistic vs. “person with autism”
Kristina Chew, PhD
May 5, 2006 at 11:31 am
Camille, did I add the right word?
Kassiane
May 5, 2006 at 11:56 am
aversives, thimerosol, poisoned, damaged, stolen children…
just to add a few
zilari
May 5, 2006 at 12:34 pm
Oh, and “devastating”.
Joseph
May 5, 2006 at 1:05 pm
I’d add: train wrecks, plague, disease.
Kassiane
May 5, 2006 at 1:12 pm
I can’t believe I forgot to mention: “national emergency” (ASA 2004, after that I refused to go to anything their president spoke at), I see you got epidemic, and the ever tactful “tsunami”.
Camille
May 5, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Hi Kritina, yeah, “person with autism” is not always bad but some parents really don’t want their kids called “autisic.”
“empty shell” that came by way of Portia Iverson (of CAN) from someone she knew… or maybe it was the “kidnapped” analogy…
“Abubakar Tariq Nadama” is a testy one, some people think he should never be mentioned again.
“geek” it’s sort of like the “n” word. It depends on how it’s said and by whom. Lenny called asperger’s adults, “Geeks and savants with ticks [sic] doing tricks” That was purely mean spirited.
Camille
May 5, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Sorry,
“Kristina” and “autistic” I had two bad typos there in the first two lines.
Kristina Chew, PhD
May 5, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Camille, at least you didn’t spell my name “Ch”ristina……..
Do you have a reference for the (very unnecessary) Lenny Schafter quotation?
Ballastexistenz
May 5, 2006 at 9:56 pm
Camille, don’t forget “pin the label on the dorky” for Schafer quotes.
Kassiane
May 5, 2006 at 11:17 pm
I think most anything that comes from Lenny is fightin’ words. Not only because he is offensive, but because if he ever tries to grab my arm and talk (down) to me again, there will be fightin’.
Camille
May 5, 2006 at 11:55 pm
http://www.neurodiversity.com/inquisition.html
Kathleen Seidel corresponded with Lenny about the essay he put in the SAR (here: http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/sareport/Week-of-Mon-20050103/000347.html) in which he wrote about “geeks” and savants with ticks [sic] doing tricks:
“You have referred to “those who would define Aspergers or autism as little more than an odd-ball minority lifestyle made up of ‘geeks’ and savants with ticks doing tricks,” and “the very real, if not romantic ‘culture of autism’ in which anyone who taps a pencil can opt themselves in as a member.” Who exactly has offered such a definition? No one that I am aware of has offered such definitions or lighthearted self-diagnoses. What is the point in creating opponents where there are none?”
So, I misremembered the context of the quote, he didn’t say Asperger’s people were “geeks” etc, there in that quote, but said that that is how people like me portrayed AS. He was saying that we make a neurodevelopmental syndrome/condition/disorder into nothing but a lifestyle choice.
His statement was entirely out of line and reading it, to me, it felt like he was slinging racial slurs at us for standing up to his version of autism. “Schafer Autism,” by definition says that Temple Grandin is not autistic. (he had said that anyone who can be employed is not autistic) I asked him directly by email “Is Temple Grandin autistic?” and he didn’t answer.
Kristina Chew, PhD
May 6, 2006 at 8:07 am
Camille, thanks for the reference. The notion of Aspergers’s and autism as a “lifestyle” choice is pretty…….well, many more fighting words come to mind.
Ballastexistenz
May 6, 2006 at 8:53 am
In the same post as he made the “pin the label on the dorky” comment, he did call Temple Grandin autistic (in fact said she would make a good model of an autistic person rather than Rain Man). But that was before he decided to declare war on all autistics with different opinions than his.
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Feb 28, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Maybe “ogre” too……
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